No, I Don't Believe In The Equality You Describe

Men and women should be equal before the law, in job opportunities. and in the eyes of God. But not in each other's eyes

Before I get to the heart of this post, let me address something about which I have been complicit, though it was not my intention to be complicit in. That would be the Pence rule. If you have read my Twitter timeline since the Weinstein situation, you'd be under the belief that I think the Pence rule exists to keep men like Mike Pence from acting out his urges or something. I regret that as that was not my intention, but others took it that way. I was just defending Pence and pointing out that his rule would have prevented these situations, but that is not why his rule exists.

In Washington, as elsewhere, there are lots of people willing to sleep with others to get ahead and there is as aggressive a rumor mill about that as there are aggressive people. Mike Pence, out of respect for his wife, refuses to be put in situations that might add him, inappropriately to a rumor mill, thereby potentially bringing shame or embarrassment to his wife. You can fault Pence all you want, but I would note that several of the people I have seen blasting him for this rule have, in fact, participated in the "who is sleeping with whom" gossip of Washington. In an age where false accusations can destroy a career before a retraction is made and media machines live on clickbait rumor mills, it is a very wise rule. It does not exist because Pence cannot control himself. But its existence does prevent the Weinstein situations of the world.

And that gets me to this: all the people claiming this prevents some level of equality or opportunity for women have no proof on their side. In fact, Pence has had numerous women in his office in high profile positions. But I do not buy into the equality they claim they want.

I know people will not read beyond that and they'll sensationalize it to drive an agenda, but the reality is that we live in a post-sexual revolution world where men and women are supposedly equal. And while I support the idea of equality before God and the law, women should not be treated as an equal with a man, but should be treated better.

I know how guys talk when they are by themselves. I know the smack they talk, the jokes they tell, and gossip they share. I don't want my daughter a part of that and I would be horrified to have a woman participating in those sorts of conversations. And for those who say, "Maybe you should't be doing that then," well maybe the sky should be a different color. The fact is that men and women are not the same, have never been the same, and will never be the same. Men talk and behave with other men in ways they do differently from when women are present and women do the same with other women.

With the sexual revolution, sex has been divorced from its procreative role and is just another means to have fun. With that and the demands for full equality, one night stands are no big deal and its a transactional relationship between parties based on how they can get pleasure from the other person. That demeans the relationship between the sexes and often leads to people treating other people, regardless of sex, as a means to an end.

I raise my son to treat women with respect and raise my daughter to expect respect. This whole notion of equality as so many now speak of it degrades women. Yes, again, equality before the law and in jobs and before God. But the idea of treating a woman the way I'd treat another man is nonsensical to me. Women should be treated better by men. I expect any man who dates my daughter to treat her like she's royalty and I expect my son to hold open doors for ladies, etc. And I expect my son to act respectfully in front of women and girls in ways I might not expect him in front of just other boys.

Now I realize this will offend all sorts of people with agendas out there and a heavy helping of humorless feminists who have played a large role in the current gender blending problems we have. They'll focus on my rejection of worldly gender equality and get all in a bother. But one of the biggest problems we have today is that as boundaries between the sexes are erased and as some refuse to acknowledge any differences between the sexes, we have provided some men an excuse to behave even more boorishly. The fact of the matter is that men and women are different and while they should be treated equally before the law and are equal before God, they are not as interchangeable as some would like. I want my daughter to have equal access to jobs and the law, but she already understands she is built differently from boys and will have different strengths and weaknesses from boys. But above all else I make sure she knows the boys and the men should treat her not as one of the guys, but as a lady.

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MarkBerwind
MarkBerwind

"I raise my son to treat women with respect and raise my daughter to expect respect." That should mostly sum it all up, but there needs to be expectations based on those treatments, in a positive way. For all the variables that happen in society, the man should always treat the women with respect, and the woman who sees the respect given through the actions of men should respond in kind, not take advantage of, or show disrespect when something may not be to their likes. I only have two boys, so I'll leave it at that, but I know how my two boys(now grown men) treat women, and that's one area I think I succeeded. I could only speculate if I had a girl in the mix, but I would hope to say the same thing. When a woman is treated in the high regards she should be. she should value that as much as the man values her. Then, we have a chance at true equality, don't we? It never was about money, opportunity, but always about respect. There will always be outliers among the two genders, but the traditional roles should get the proper respect, also, in the eyes of all of the above.

Jules
Jules

"Beyond the above there are STD's and emotional consequences." And dead babies.

ekay
ekay

If we need any "proof" that men and women are NOT equal, is the fact that a woman can get pregnant from the same act that a man can casually walk away from. There can be a HUGE cost to the woman. But now with contraceptives and abortion-on-demand readily avialable it leaves people free to think there are no consequences. Unfortunately, that isn't so. Beyond the above there are STD's and emotional consequences

Bear8
Bear8

Eric I am in total agreement with you. Current problems in culture exist because for two generations young ladies have been taught, by some who were not so much ladies, that being "ladylike" is submissive to men and a rejection of equality. Of course, that is not true, but the unladylike were convincing and culture adjusted. Women are, in some regards, equal to men. God created us equal although different. Women are to be treated equal by law and in the workplace. I am now retired after a long career in management positions where an essential part was filling job vacancies with qualified candidates. Some women perform some jobs better than men; some men perform some jobs better than women. Some jobs are performed equally well by either sex. I have two daughters, both now grown with children of their own. We taught them, like you did with yours, that girls/women deserve respect from boys/men and they should demand that. We had no boys, but I would have taught them to show respect. Sex was taught as a gift of God; something sacred to be enjoyed within the covenant of marriage; and yes, for pro-creation as well. Sex has in recent years become a recreational activity; which, as you state is demeaning to women. It results in treatment by the male as though women were nothing more than a sex object; something I find as repulsive.

Dave_A
Dave_A

Exactly.

The old-order-of-things (where sex was conditioned on a relationship, ideally marriage) provided a clear set of rules to structure personal relationships between the sexes. Men weren't supposed to ask, women weren't supposed to say yes even if they did, mutual blackout drunkeness was not acceptable as the entryway to a new relationship &, and by the time you got to a place where sex was culturally acceptable, you actually knew each other well enough to not get drunk & stumble into a regrettable situation...

My son will be taught to respect women, not to treat them like funny looking men.