Let's Talk a Bit More About Treason

The precedents set by Democrats are only expanded by Donald Trump.

Y'all, I got called a traitor more in 2016 on Fox News than at any time in my career. I'd be on Charles Payne's show and Stacy Dash or some other Trump supporter would declare me a traitor for failing to support the man and he wasn't even President yet. I'm used to Trump supporters throwing the word around.

And now the President has done it in a speech after declaring in the State of the Union that we were all one people and should unite. The failure of Democrats to clap, however, is now treasonous.

He shouldn't have said it. Political opposition is not treason. Even having differing views on public policy is not treason.

But please, Democrats, spare me.

For eight years, Democrats in Congress and the press called Republicans traitors and racists merely for opposing Barack Obama. President Obama himself called Republicans "the enemy" to hispanic voters and publicly referred to them as hostage takers. Hillary Clinton referred to the GOP as a terrorist group. Joe Biden said the GOP always bet against the United States.

Yes, to be sure, Barack Obama never used the word "traitors" against the GOP. But just about everyone else on the national stage for the Democrats did. It's only a small step to the President doing it and that's the point. The Democrats laid the groundwork for eight years and Trump just took the next step. This is why I have time and again lamented the precedents the Democrats were setting in behavior and action.

All that said, "they started it" is the excuse and whine of a grade school argument. The President should not be calling those he disagrees with traitors. Just spare me the outrage.

During his speech you could tell he was saying it tongue in cheek, mocking the democrats that call everything he does from wanting to cut taxes to drinking Diet Coke treasonous. He was playing to a receptive crowd, and mocking his opponents to get laughs. He succeeded if you listen to the crowd.

The faux outrage over this is the height of humor.


I'm not sure what the joke was in there. He said:

"They were like death and un-American. Un-American. Somebody said, 'treasonous.' I mean, Yeah, I guess why not? Can we call that treason? Why not? I mean they certainly didn't seem to love our country that much."

For me, he is connecting them not supporting him as un-ammerican behavior, and then saying that un-american behavior is treason. And that anyone who protests him doesn't love this country.

The problem is that isn't not treasonous to use your first amdendment rights. It's not treasonous to kneel for the national anthem. It's not un-american to protest the president.

The fact that Trump conflates all these together just shows how much of a snowflake he is when people disagree with him. That's what I take away from all this.

It's called hyperbole. A word can be used to display a sentiment without using it in a manner as to suggest it means rising to the letter of the law, can't it? Have you not used such hyperbolic examples of words, like that? I know I have, and you probably have, too. This is just petty.

There is hyperbole, and then there is simply misrepresentation. If we simply dismiss being called a ‘traitor’ as hyperbole, then we run the risk of leaving specific words with no specific meaning. So what do we call people when they really HAVE betrayed their country? “REAL traitors”.

I can understand the term hyperbole when the president says, “These were the most viewers EVER!” When in reality it’s simply that his speech had really good #’s, but in reality didn’t set any records; however, calling someone a traitor, or murderer, or homophobic or xenophobic, etc, simply because they don’t agree with us goes far beyond that. In those cases, it’s not simply exaggeration; it’s an attempt to hurt and shame people into silence or compliance in order to quash any sense of disagreement. That’s an entirely different ballgame.

Who exactly was it that said the Tea Party was "the American Taliban"? I heard that somewhere.

Let's not forget Biden telling a crowd that Republicans wanted to put black "back in chains"!

So "un-American behavior" ISN'T treasonous . . .?

Sorry to say, "ya but" is not an argument you should use. When my son was in trouble as a pre-teen, that argument was used and dismissed as NO EXCUSE. Same thing today, especially for an adult.

1 : one who betrays another's trust or is false to an obligation or duty
2 : one who commits treason

1 : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family
2 : the betrayal of a trust