I Am Increasingly More Concerned About The Left Than Trump

The President is a known quantity now. The left is also known and far more intolerant, angry, and violent.

The President's character still weighs on me. The willingness of his supporters to turn a blind eye to his bad behavior weighs on me. The man cheated on his pregnant third wife with a porn star and the few who aren't still denying it are essentially taking the position that it's pretty cool to be able to have a fling with a porn star.

But for all the problems I have with the President at a personal level, his policies have been mostly good. Tariffs are going to wreck the economy, but the tax cuts were great. Tariffs are terrible, but the President's judicial picks have been stellar. Brett Kavanaugh is going to be awesome. President Trump's aggressive push to roll back the regulatory state is proceeding at a pace I did not expect and that I think is perfect.

With the exception of trade policy, the President does seem to be listening to good people. But every time I think I should just come out and fully support him, he does something, and I take a step back.

I have to be honest, though, I see a tendency more and more on the left to not care even for reasonable dissent on the right against the President. If you embrace any part of the Trump agenda, you might as well be a white supremacist, racist, bigot, Trump deplorable, according to a growing number of voices on the left. In fact, as much as I think some prominent evangelicals and Republicans have lost their minds over Trump, I think even more on the left have done so to a dangerous, censorious level.

I am far more concerned about that these days than I am the President's behavior. No, it was not good that the President is meeting with a man who kills journalists and is himself attacking the press. It is also not good to see so many Republicans suddenly become pro-Putin.

But the President has been attacking the press for two years, and the media has been running and retracting an embarrassing number of stories over the past two years. It doesn't make the President's attacks right, but it certainly makes it easier for his attacks to resonate.

Meanwhile, progressive activists are showing up a people's houses — something I am particularly sensitive to because Trump supporters did it to my family. The liberal activists are chasing people out of restaurants and harassing people in public over public policy differences. They promise to escalate and expand their agitation.

The left is ascribing morality to various public policies while threatening and chasing out of business the Christian small businesses and adoption agencies that have their own moral views and just want to live up to them.

The outright and growing hostility from the left towards anyone who disagrees with them is far more concerning to me than the President's temper tantrums. The fact that so many on the left are losing the ability to distinguish between conservatives who didn't vote for the President, but agree with some of his policies, and his supporters, make me want to step right up to the President in as much as the President sometimes makes me want to step away.

Increasingly, I am thinking something I have not really seriously considered before. I can see myself voting for Trump in 2020, though I'm not there yet. The Trump we all know has lots of problems, but he is also a known quantity now, warts and all. The left that would replace him is also a known quantity, and they are far, far less willing to let conservative Christians like me enter the public square than the President is willing to try to stop the left from entering the public square.

In fact, it seems one of the chief problems today is that the left believes more and more it has a monopoly on the news and entertainment and is far less willing to let a conservative be heard or seen. The hysteria over conservative op-eds at the New York Times etc. is only going to grow.

I never thought I would head in the direction in which I seem to be headed, but at least for now I'm starting to think I'd rather another chaotic term for Trump than a Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren Presidency and all that would entail.

For now, however, I think it is absolutely vital for conservatives in my shoes, who remain skeptical of the President, some of his policies, and his character to show up in November and vote Republican. To do otherwise will convince progressive radicals that the arc of history is bending toward them because they went lower than the lows of which they accuse Trump. That'll be very bad for all of us.

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@Dave_A Trump offered zero tariffs to the EU and they declined the offer – and you can’t get any “further right” than that on free-trade. The only reason Trump is proposing tariff’s is that our current trade deals have unbalanced tariffs – where US products face higher tariff rates than products sold into the US.

There is nothing “far left” about the concept that the next best things to zero-rate tariffs are tariffs at equal (reciprocal) rates. If you think otherwise, please explain why. If you dispute that uneven tariff’s exist, I can easily supply them from the EU’s own documentation, which clearly indicates that they protect their own markets.

There is also nothing “far left” about the fact that China steals intellectual property and that this is an unfair trading practice. There is also nothing “far left” about the fact that subsidized Chinese imports have decimated American metal manufacturing, which is why Trump proposed the steel and aluminum tariffs.

It is also not a “far left” concept that steel and aluminum are vital to the American defense industry. If we ever go to war with China, it would be idiotic to argue that they are going to honor the concept of “free trade” and supply us with the metal needed to defend ourselves.

You are 100% wrong that there is no concept of “fair” in business. No intelligent businessman negotiates a deal that he believes is unfair to his company. The only thing that is “far left” is the concept that government is responsible for correcting the unequal distribution of wealth (i.e. “equality of result” versus “equality of opportunity”).

Trump’s position on trade is simply that of an intelligent businessman, who wants to negotiate trade deals so that they have either zero tariffs or reciprocal tariff rates. That is not a “far left” concept.



Trade is the one area where Trump is far, far left.

The idea that there can EVER be such a concept as 'fair' or 'unfair' in business - beyond 'illegal' vs 'legal' - is a leftist concept.

As is the idea that the 'feelings' of individual participants in the economy should matter.

The fact is that tariffs hurt every DOMESTIC business that does business with a tariff-protected firm.


There is essentially no idea that is more anti-conservative, anti-free-market, than tariffs.

And don't even start with the idea that it is 'unfair' for foreign countries to have lower levels of regulation than the US does. That's the sort of rubbish one would expect from the EU.

There is an opportunity cost to every government/political decision, and the 'cost' to America for having things like child labor laws, environmental protection, OSHA, and so on is that we are a less-attractive place to engage in some business activities.

The same applies to the tax-structure in Europe, for example - and yes, there are Europeans that are calling for tariffs against the US and post-brexit UK (Before Trump) because we 'fail' to be socialist-enough ('social dumping', they call it)....

It's perfectly fair for countries with lower standards-of-living and less regulation to beat out the US for consumer manufacturing jobs...

It's also perfectly fair for America to not have the sort of desperate poverty you find in those places...


@DavidMKern Fair enough.


@lovinee Erick has regularly bashed Trump for his tweets although not so much lately. My assumption is that this is primarily because of Trump’s being what Rush Limbaugh described as a “Counter Puncher,” who always fights back. Although I can’t remember any exact quotes from Erick, my impression is that one of his gripes with Trump is that it is unpresidential to fight back against critics – in particularly using the twitter domain. If I am mistaken in that assumption, I apologize. I don’t personally know Erick, and if I have assumed something that he doesn’t believe based on his various posts, I doubly apologize.

@cynicalnerd Trump’s comments about McCain’s distinguished military service were certainly out of line, but that is one sentence out of the last 3 years. If you retrace history to read the record of the McCain/Trump feud, it is clear that McCain was the first to start punching at Trump because of his stance on immigration (on June 30, 2015) and McCain’s joining with Senator Flake to mock Trump’s Arizona rally on July 15, led to Trump’s idiotic McCain insult on July 16:

I am not claiming that Trump comments are always as pure as the driven snow, as they clearly are not. But as I have followed Trump from the beginning, I believe he is much more a counter puncher than a bully (as I believe Erick has portrayed him).

I agree 100% with Erick that sexual immorality is horrible (point 1), but I think Erick is wrong for not making any distinction between Trump’s current life and his past history of over a decade ago. I expect that Trump was vulnerable to a sexual addiction, but it seems that since he got out of casino’s and beauty pageants and married Melania (having a new son Barron), this behavior was part of his past life, and it is not his present behavior.


@DavidMKern I would say your first #2 is off. would say it is not the no holds barred thing with Trump that drives us up a wall, it's that his line of attacks are often poorly chosen-- a case in point being John McCain. There were a hundred and one legitimate things you could take and smash Gollum over the head with, and Trump picks the one attack that makes the cretin sympathetic!

As for the second #2...agreed. Calls of Racism are almost thoroughly discredited for me. (Unless there is video, audio documentation or proper historical context like the democrat Nathan Bedford Forrest helping found the KKK, or Margaret Sanger founding the Negro Project as part of her eugenics campaign-- my first instinct is to give a raspberry to the very idea and think whoever claimed it is an ignoranus.)