Dennis Prager is Just Wrong Here

If character no longer counts and relationships are now transactional, evangelicals have left the faith.

For a man of such intellectual heft, I'm disappointed to see such a shallow argument from Dennis Prager on the evangelical defense of Trump. His argument boils down to this:

Evangelicals realize that the moral good of defeating the Left is of surpassing importance. It can feel good to oppose the president, but religious supporters of the president are more interested in doing good than feeling good.

In fact, I hear that a lot from evangelical supporters of the President who give him a pass on everything. And to be clear, I think it is possible to support the President as an evangelical without cheerleading him. Prager's defense seems to be directed at those who ignore the President's low character and behavior because of the advancement of public policy.

The problem, however, is that Prager is layering politics on top of faith and conforming faith to politics. Where does the "moral good" come from to defeat the left? Is it from God? If so, then God sets parameters for our behavior knowing that people of faith will not succeed against the world without God. As Psalm 73 notes, the things of this world are going to thrive while it looks like the people of God are not thriving. But it is an act of mercy on God's part because the things of this world will never have it better than now and the people of God will never have it worse. More so, the New Testament tells Christians that they are to shun those who claim to be Christian, as the President does, but who are unrepentant of their bad behavior.

So where does the moral good come from? The people of God are commanded to glorify Him. How does giving a pass to affairs with porn stars glorify God? And again, as Trump calls himself a Christian, how does this all reconcile with 1 Corinthians 5, which commands Christians to shun those Christians who engage in such behavior without repenting?

By muddying up the waters between faith and politics Dennis thinks he has a winning argument, but God's people are called to be set apart. We can engage in politics, but we are not to so separate our faith from our politics that we think we can sin on Saturday so long as we don't on Sunday.

Religious Christians and Jews who support Trump understand that the character of a public leader is quite often less important than his policies. This is so obvious that only the naïve think otherwise.

Dennis sets up a binary choice. One must vote for A or vote for B. But I think God calls us to rely on him, not on political leaders. When confronted by two immoral people, Christians can opt out. We do not have to defend one immorality because of his policy positions. We are, after all, just passing through home to eternity.

Ultimately, we must decide if we are Christians first or Americans first. And if we are Christians first we must recognize there are some times and some ways in which we cannot engage in politics. That may seem like we have a hand tied behind our back against a world willing to cheat, but then this life is the best the world has. We have an eternity with God. A politician's policies are temporary. We have to worry about the eternality of the soul. Dennis seems to think the short term gains of political policy can be had, at any cost, without a cost to the soul. I think he is wrong and I think his argument allows conservatives a blank check of bad behavior to beat the left, which I think flies in the face of authentic Christianity. Should we support someone who steals to beat the left? What about someone who cheats? What about someone who lies? What about someone who murders? If not, why not? But isn't it all about his policies and beating the left?

Like Evangelicals, I look to the Bible for moral instruction. I also look for wisdom. And in that book, God chooses, of all people, a prostitute (Rahab) to enable the Israelites to enter the Promised Land. There’s a lesson there.

There is a lesson there. For Dennis and those who give the President a pass on all his moral faults, the lesson is that no matter how awful a person's character, if his policies are right he is worthy of support. That is precisely the opposite of the Biblical lesson of Rahab.

Rahab prostituted herself in Jericho, but when the Israelites approached she trusted in the Lord and called upon His name. She went from sin to salvation by faith. In other words, Rahab showed herself to actually have high character despite her profession in Jericho. God uses the fallen, but the fallen repent. Rahab repented. David repented. Peter repented. Paul repented.

Donald Trump has not. What he has done is caused a lot of evangelicals to embrace moral relativism, trading truth for lies, and allowed people who once said character matters to say it no longer does. For Dennis Prager and evangelical defenders of Trump, relationships are now transactional, which is not Godly and not reflective of the faith.

There are defenses of evangelicals voting for President Trump. There are no defenses of evangelicals defending the President's sins. And any evangelical who equates advancing the Kingdom with beating the left risks losing the kingdom.

Likewise, simply declaring that Prager has "dropped the ball" doesn't make a person right. In what ways specifically has DP 'dropped the ball'? In your own words, what has Prager said that contradicts Scripture? I don't even buy the notion that Trump is a follower of Christ, let alone a leader of the Church, so in what way does voting for Trump make us oppositional to the Kingdom of God?

I would rather postulate that equating voting for Trump with opposition to the Church is itself potentially antithetic to faithful Christianity, as it seems to equate our selection of a civic leader with somehow indicating our stance on God's Kingdom.

I've asked it several times and have yet to receive a satisfactory (or any???) reply: "When God raised up specific individuals who worked FOR and WITH some of the most wicked leaders in Biblical history, should those people have refused to serve in those capacities for fear of compromising their faith "image"?

People are doing the very thing that we don't have permission to do: Using ones vote as a litmus test of faith. Prager brings up some very valid points regarding support for Israel, protection for the unborn, etc.

The ONLY time that we can definitively say that our support of a candidate appears to violate our faith is,

1) When we are supporting them precisely BECAUSE of their stances on specifically unbiblical issues,

2) When our support of such a candidate leads to a refusal to be critical of actions, attitudes and statements that are unBiblical.

I voted for Trump. It seems like the wisest choice to make. I am a devoted follower of Jesus, investing myself in the deliberate discipling of people in the US and abroad. I lead an organization that operates an orphanage in Central America, builds homes for those who have no means to do so, and feeds school children who come from impoverished backgrounds. I lead studies in Scripture and have taught classes for years on hermeneutics. NONE of that is to my credit; it is simply to point out that sometimes we make difficult choices that we believe best serve others and glorify God.

Too many people are not looking for unity in the Body of Christ, but rather uniformity. I have been VERY vocal in my criticism of Trumps methodologies and his stances on LGBT... issues which I believe counter Scriptural teaching. IMO, it does the body of Christ no good to divide over issues that clearly have more than one vantage point. Much like Paul's exhortation to the Corinthians in which he gave permission to both EAT or ABSTAIN from eating meat sacrifice TO IDOLS, we must equally allow the Spirit-directed conscience to make choices on topics like voting, and TRUST that the Holy Spirit is still capable of leading His people.

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I didn’t like Trump but I didn’t like Hillary more! And I still think God is using Trump for His purposes. God is in control. Be careful how you criticize His choice.

Daniel worked for Nebuchadnezzar under God’s guidance and favor. He did not

compromise his faith toward God and God Blessed Daniel in and through any times of testing and God got the ultimate glory.

We may not agree with all Trump does, but we promote the kingdom of God just the same and God will still be glorified through Trump’s administration. Just as in Nebuchadnezzar’s administration, God referred to him as his servant and God used his real servants within his administration and even intervened in Nebuchadnezzar’s own individual life to show who the real King of Kings and Lord of Lords really is!

Eric, with all due respect, you do not know Trump’s heart. Neither do I. Only God does and He will judge rightly. That our “judgement” is fallible and susceptible to our own mental, emotional and moral failings is as obvious as the “scales on our eyes”. You and others who know the Bible get the reference.There is a lot about him that repels me. BUT, and it is a big “but” (I’m not screaming), It became a binary choice. Trump certainly was not my first choice...nor second, third, fourth, fifth...you get it.

Premature posting above..... As a Christian who tries to follow Christ, compassionate citizen, and patriot, I have a duty to render to “Rome”. Christ said it. I pay my taxes, perform my duties. “Rome” uses my money to fund many unGodly actions. I can’t opt out without going to jail. Should Christians opt out of giving “Rome” its due? As a responsible citizen I have a duty to try to steer my money/support/this nation in a manner that most aligns with my beliefs. I could not, would not vote for the other very flawed, likely corrupt candidate who also claims to be a Christian. God will rightly judge her, even if the FBI and DOJ don’t. But as a citizen I vote for the one that I believe will do the best for all this country’s people, including “the least of these”. God and country, in that order. Dennis Prager is a treasure. I read and follow both of you. God can use anyone to accomplish His aims. He even uses you....and me! Maybe He is using Trump. I trust God to judge us rightly. I’m at peace with my decision.

The problem is not "layering." Its a practical choice between a mixed good/bad option for 4 years, and worse (any Democrat). Obviously there's no always-good option here for 3 more years. The Republican base made sure of it when they picked Trump over Cruz and Rubio. So the People, at least Republicans & the muddled-middle, are practical. They'll support the least bad/sometimes good option over far worse. It's not that they're choosing moral relativism. They'll support Trump when he tries to do good things & oppose him when he acts foolishly. At least that's what I'll do.

As Mr. Spock would say, "Fascinating!" It is incredibly fascinating to read all of the convoluted rationalizing that Trump supporters spew, when hopefully, all they really mean is "but... but... but.... HILLARY!" We have truly lost our way. Once both Major Parties National Conventions were through, we should have had nothing less than 100 million registered voters stand up and say "NO!" to BOTH of these morally bankrupt posers. Rationalize all you want, you do realize that the great Satan's best talent is deception? If you think that a man that has glorified himself for his entire life, a man who has lied and cheated his entire way through life by means of a legal system and bankroll that automatically beats down the 'little guy' whenever it suits him, is a "Good" President, is a man who would not throw you and your family under the bus in a heartbeat if he so needed it, when that is his EXACT mode of operation for his entire life, then I have 'news for you. You have been willfully deceived. By Satan. By Yourself. Go ahead. Rationalize some more, I know you will.