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More Diesel Cheating: Germany Concocts New Ways, Audi Caught, Halts Production

Volkswagon was caught cheating on Diesel three years ago. Its primary response was to invent new ways to cheat.

Confirming a report in news weekly Der Spiegel, Germany's transport ministry told AFP it was investigating the use of a new "illegal defeat device" in some 60,000 Audi cars, half of which are driving on German roads.

According to Spiegel, the current A6 model is equipped with software that deliberately slows down the use of a special pollution-cleaning fluid in the final 2,400 kilometres of its life span, to avoid drivers having to refill the so-called AdBlue liquid in between regular service updates.

But reducing the AdBlue function also drastically lowers its effectiveness in neutralizing the engine's harmful nitrogen oxides, making the diesel cars far more polluting during that time.

Germany's transport ministry said its KBA vehicles licensing had opened a probe into suspicions that Audi equipped some 60,000 "A6/A7 models" with a cheating device, "around 33,000 of them in Germany".

The alleged AdBlue scam differs from the one that sparked Volkswagen's "dieselgate" crisis in 2015, when the auto giant admitted to installing software in some 11 million diesels worldwide that could detect when a vehicle was undergoing pollution tests and reduce emissions accordingly.

Eurointelligence Comments

It looks like VW's response to being found out using software to cheat on emissions has been to upgrade the software so it becomes harder to detect. [Mish note: Audi is owned by VW].

Germany's Federal Motor Transport Authority yesterday announced that it is investigating Audi for fitting its vehicles with another type of a software cheating system, different from the one used by VW. FAZ writes that, if these suspicions prove correct, there will have to be a financially disastrous recall of 33,000 cars in Germany and 60,000 in the rest of the world.

When they [VW] got found out, the car companies simply removed one of five cheating devices, and continued to use the rest.

Clean Diesel - Honest

Last month, German engine maker Bosh announced a new "clean" diesel engine.

Even if the claim was true, no one in their right mind would believe it. Besides, the world is headed electric.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

If it's not diesel it's engine cut out that can be a much quicker killer than diesel, 300K car recall - occurring now -

It's hard to catch clever software especially on high end vehicles with GPS built in and possibly cloud connectivity. Detect a test condition or location is relatively easy, performance change vs mileage easy too. Bet there are many other clever tricks possible too.

Bullish for Tesla. Tesla FTW.

Let me guess the last 2400 is only like 10% of the life of fluid and it's a convenience thing more than an emmision thing because it more than meets the requirements even when this happens. There's not enough info in this article to convey that this is in fact "cheating".

German engineering. It has always been great. If they want to sell cars and find clever ways to circumvent the “Polizei” well what can one say.: German engineering has always been very cutting edge, ingenious and always looking to solve the “problem”. Guess they are just redefining what the problem is!!! LOL.

Anyway, who are we (U.S.) to Complain. We have a reality t.v. Show host running our country into the ground and the only way we see fit to get him out of Office is through the legal actions of a porn star!!!

He also imagines there was something illegal about the consensual sex Trump had many years ago. I feel sorry for the Trump haters with their fantasies, but it seems they are victims of the fake news MSM propaganda. I'll bet he has never even heard of the $80 million of illegal Hillary contributions that are right now being investigated.

I am proud to be an equal party basher, more specifically platform-based. I care about policies not parties. Sometimes I praise Trump, sometimes not. Other people attack Trump no matter what he does.

I can't see how diesel ever recovers from these scandals regardless of what new technology comes forward.

I never understood the appeal of getting a diesel car. The gas is relatively hard to find and they stink. Maybe you can save a little at the gas pump, but not nearly enough to make it worthwhile. I understand the need in a large 18 wheeler or dump truck, but a family car never made sense to me.

An auto enthusiast told me that the fluid Germans inject into their diesel engines to reduce certain gas emissions is urea -- piss, to the likes of me. It sounds like a marketing triumph to call it AdBlue rather than Concentrated Urine. Maybe next the Germans will relabel public toilets as AdBlue Collection Facilities?

I used to understand the appeal of diesel cars. At one time they were less expensive to operate, more reliable, and had a longer driving range. The introduction of ultra-low sulfur fuel and complex emission systems changed that. The only attraction I can see today is that a small turbo diesel can still pack a wallop when it comes to low end torque, but one pays a lot for that. In the long run diesel cars probably are dead.

In Europe/UK, diesel is readily available. You can get 50+MPG from a turbo diesel compared to 35+MPG for a similar size/power petrol. Also, diesels have more low-end torque so can be quite nice to drive.

In my experience - yes - and smaller cars can be closer to 70mpg.
They can be impressive mpg, long service interval, and cheap to se

I have a compliant 5 (convertible to 7) seater at average 50-51 mpg, on a run can be 54-
55mpg. Heavy city driving with eco-stop/start about 43-48 mpg.

Diesels do not have compression loss and they are simple engines. They last forever. The technology is good enough...the Urea Supplement is available in the USa for big trucks. It's an additive. They should sell it with the fuel.

50MPG to 70MPG sounds unrealistically high for what I am familiar with. Are you using US gallons or Imperial gallons? Some actual make & model information would be helpful.

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