The controversial interview prompted even more controversial interviews with us by fellow Bay Area rapper JT the Bigga Figga and then, of course, Too $hort himself.
Since then, things seem to have calmed down for Messy Marv in regards to the beef and he even put together another project called Da New Frank Lukas – Dat Neva Wore Da Mink Coat this past Valentine’s Day. Messy Marv called up AllHipHop.com again to tell us about what went on after those crazy interviews and where his mind is at now:
AllHipHop.com: The last time we spoke, you set The Bay on fire with a lot of controversy. But judging your recent behavior, things seemed to have cooled down and you appear to be focused on your career.
Messy Marv: I was focused then and now. Due to the AllHipHop.com interview by JT the Bigga Figga where he lied about me robbing his studio, paying the Oak Park Bloods for protection, starting wars, giving trophies out to the youngsters in my hood to knock people down and me skipping town when the killing got heavy – my attorney said he implicated me for robbery, embedding in a criminal organization and conspiracy to commit murder. The interview had all of those fake a** trumped up charges against me, and it didn’t help at all because homicide detectives were following me around before my tour.
It was all lies – but just based on the lies that JT the Bigga Figga said in your interview, I could have been conspired on some bullsh*t and sent away for a long f*ckin’ time! Whether JT likes it or not, that’s a form of affadavit. I had to deny that sh*t and keep denying it based on the fact that it was all lies, and if I didn’t, it could have escalated. But I’m blessed to be here and I’m looking forward to living my life as it was – drama free.
AllHipHop.com: Are things cleared up with Too $hort? Or is there a beef still going on?
Messy Marv: To be honest, it was over with after I spoke and he spoke. As men, you can agree to disagree. We both spoke, and that was it. The Bay looks good right now. E-40 just dropped a video and his album comes out in March. Too $hort just dropped his video and his album comes out in February. It’s a real good look for The Bay – we’re looking good.
AllHipHop.com: You recently stated on your Twitter account that you and E-40 were going to do business together.
Messy Marv: Me and 40 had a personal relationship. We talk often and call each other on Christmas, Thanksgiving, and other holidays. There have been discussions about merging Sick-Wid-It and Scalen for some time now. It was supposed to go through. It wasn’t a publicity stunt or nothing like that. I don’t front for the camera. E-40 didn’t speak to the fans about it for whatever reasons – which I wish he would have – so I did.
We tried to put our situations together. Some things came up during our conversations about distribution, who I am as a person and who he is as a person, doing songs to squash some beefs, and me being a Blood. At the end, I guess he wanted to protect the best interest of his label, saying more people don’t like me than people don’t like him. Everything is good, though. I’m not mad at 40. We’re still pushing for The Bay, and it’s all love.
AllHipHop.com: You just released your new mixtape, Da New Frank Lukas – Dat Neva Wore Da Mink Coat.
Messy Marv: I released it on February 14, and I call that day the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre #2. I’m murdered the game in broad daylight. The album reached #33 on the iTunes chart, and my new video did good numbers on World Star on the day of the Lukas release as well.
AllHipHop.com: What’s with the Frank Lucas reference?
Messy Marv: If you remember the movie, Frank Lucas was a real low-key dude. Once he wore that mink coat, that’s when them people were on to him. Then eventually he told on the police. I’m a low-key n*gga, so my whole idea with the album is to tell the game on the police.
Last year, I went through a lot of fake a** n*ggas behaving in an informant manner speaking on me, in reference to the JT the Bigga Figga interview that you did, and a Youtube video that Homewrecka put out stating that I gave him $5,000 to knock somebody down – which was a lie as well. I said to myself that I was going to put the police out there by talking about what these homicide detectives did, and about the sh*t that these others said and lied about me.
AllHipHop.com: Won’t something like that bring more heat on you?
Messy Marv: I don’t give a f*ck about the heat. I pay my taxes, and I’m a professional young, Black male. I did my time, and I’m no longer under paperwork. Everything that’s being said about me is just some sh*t that motherf*cker made up and could have gotten me locked up. F*ck the heat. I’m going to put these punk a** police out there. I’m the new Frank Lucas on this album.
AllHipHop.com: You have no fear when it comes to drama [laughter].
Messy Marv: Why have fear when you believe in something grand? I’ll keep denying what JT the Bigga Figga and Homewrecka states because they are all lies. It was very insulting. I put what they said out there so the game can see exactly how they both implicated me in some made up a** sh*t that could have sent me to prison. But the sad part is, some of these so-called gangstas from the street still deal with them. Real gangstas don’t condone no sh*t like that. From the beginning to the end, it’s a narrative album. I went Messy 1993 on them. No R&B hooks. I went straight coke.
AllHipHop.com: Do you feel that you are underrated as an artist?
Messy Marv: I’m definitely underrated. The reason being is because nobody really knows my story. I don’t get any radio play. I’ve sold a lot more records than some of these artists that are on the radio playlists. Not to take anything from anybody on their playlist, but I don’t get the radio play. You also don’t hear me on as a feature on any other of the “bigger” artists albums.
Also, being my “in-and-out of jail, hot-headed a** n*gga self,” could have prevented me from being a bigger artist, but I’m not mad because after 17 years, I’m still moving units. I still put out four or five albums a year, and I’ve got over 60 albums under my belt right now with over 500,000 sold independently. I hope by reading this, people will see another side to the “troublemaking” Messy Marv that they think they know about and focus on the superstar that I am.
AllHipHop.com: So you’re not just a troublemaker then.
Messy Marv: Not at all, but I will give it to you if you want it. I try to mind my business. I was brought up to stand on my own two and mind your business. When a n*gga acts like he wants trouble, you give it to him 10 times. Definitely not a troublemaker – I used to be. I’m more mature, especially now that I have custody of my son. My boy has taught me a lot of patience, too. Fatherhood has taught me a lot – straight up.